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Predicting a Sustainable Future

Cameron Gibelyou discusses the history of predicting environmental futures and the lessons we can learn about to evaluate current environmental predictions. He draws on an example from the 1970s around overpopulation and panic it incited. He also breaks down how the 'people are the problem' mindset removes the nuance from the larger social issues that drive climate change.

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0:00 one of the courses that I teach here at 0:02 the University of Michigan is called 0:04 predicting the future and in that course 0:06 one of the big topics or themes that we 0:08 engage with is the history of predicting 0:11 the future so one question that we can 0:14 address in connection with Earth Day is 0:16 what can we learn from the history of 0:19 predicting environmental futures about 0:22 how to evaluate present-day predictions 0:25 and how to think about present-day ideas 0:28 about what the future may hold 0:30 environmentally one episode that I would 0:33 point to from around the time of the 0:35 first Earth Day in 1970 is the history 0:39 of fears about overpopulation and 0:42 overpopulation induced catastrophes Paul 0:46 Ehrlich and a number of other people 0:48 around the time of that first Earth Day 0:51 in 1970 were making predictions that the 0:55 Earth's population had already exceeded 0:59 the capacity of the planet to sustain 1:03 and that because of that unless we got 1:07 our population the human Pablo blumen 1:10 population under control very swiftly 1:12 there would be global catastrophes along 1:16 the lines of global famines or pandemic 1:19 disease or what have you that would wipe 1:24 out kill hundreds of millions or 1:26 billions of people as early as the 1970s 1:29 or the 1980s there was a rather large 1:33 scale panic that was induced by the set 1:37 of highly extreme and apocalyptic 1:40 scenarios that were advanced by Ehrlich 1:43 and others it turns out that 1:46 overpopulation as an idea just 1:49 fundamentally misdiagnosed the problem 1:52 it saw people themselves and sheer 1:56 numbers of people as the problem as 2:00 what's automatically causing 2:02 environmental ills and there are a 2:06 handful of issues with that one is it 2:08 creates the question of if there's 2:10 overpopulation who is the over 2:13 right so there's sharp political and 2:17 cultural and moral ethical kinds of 2:21 consequences of speaking about people in 2:25 that kind of way but even just at a 2:27 basic level it was a gross 2:30 oversimplification to think that just 2:33 the sheer number of people on the planet 2:34 was going to single-handedly drive us 2:37 into global catastrophe the action if 2:42 you will is really at the level of 2:44 societal infrastructures and economic 2:47 structures and the sort of collective 2:50 actions and decisions that we make as 2:54 individual societies and as a global 2:57 society it turns out that people both 3:00 produce resources and consume resources 3:03 we're not just mouths to feed we're also 3:06 we have Minds we can change our destiny 3:10 if you will we can affect the future 3:12 through what we produce and what we 3:15 create and at the level of social 3:18 structures and social institutions if 3:22 infrastructures if social structures and 3:26 economic structures can create 3:28 environmental problems they can also be 3:32 redirected to solve or at least respond 3:35 to those same problems or those same 3:38 issues and so overpopulation was a badly 3:44 damaging misdiagnosis that led to 3:46 widespread panic and also led to in some 3:51 cases very coercive population control 3:53 measures so one thing I think is we need 3:56 to stop seeing people as the problem or 4:00 people as an inherent evil or an 4:02 inherent blight on the planet and we 4:05 need to take a much more complex and 4:08 nuanced look at social structures 4:11 sustainability is not just about the 4:14 human relationship with the natural 4:16 environment it's fundamentally a social 4:19 question as well as one that engages the 4:22 Natural Sciences another important 4:25 lesson that I think we 4:26 can learn is the importance of avoiding 4:30 extreme apocalyptic predictions there 4:34 are consequences to making predictions 4:36 of the future what we think is going to 4:38 happen in the future and what we talk 4:40 about as likely to happen in the future 4:43 affects the present it affects how we 4:45 act in the present and in the case of 4:48 Paul Ehrlich and the zero population 4:50 growth movement around the time of the 4:53 first Earth Day there were some very 4:56 serious consequences including things 5:00 like forced sterilizations there were 5:02 some grave abuses of human rights 5:05 connected with the panic and the fear 5:08 that apocalyptic over population based 5:12 predictions produced in people at the 5:16 time and so I think we need to be 5:19 careful not to lose the sense of urgency 5:21 that apocalyptic and very extreme scary 5:27 kinds of predictions can produce in us 5:31 because there may very well be need of 5:34 that kind of sense of urgency but at the 5:37 same time we need to be very careful not 5:39 to view people as a fundamental problem 5:43 or to advocate sort of anti humanistic 5:49 kinds of solutions to problems that may 5:53 not ever materialize in the way that we 5:58 think they might just as some of the 6:00 worst predictions of what would happen 6:02 as a result of the supposed 6:04 overpopulation of the earth just didn't 6:07 come to pass there were no global 6:09 catastrophes of the sort that Paul 6:12 Ehrlich predicted happening in the 1970s 6:15 in the 1980s